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Dean-123 · 07-15-2008, 09:19 AM

Hey guys!
I want to get some points of view from graphic designers about an experience I recently had with one. First, we accorded a budget of 400 dollars for a job that included some Flash, some design and of course, nice presentation. The deadline was around 2 weeks; I didn’t ask him for anything because I trusted him. So, when he delivers I was unhappy with some of the designs and he comes all grumpy at me, telling me what my mistakes were and that if I wanted him to fix those mistakes he would charge me with another 200, so I accepted. Then I realized that some text was wrong and I sent him the correct one and he charged me another 80 bucks just for making him so the same thing twice. Is this normal? What would you have charged me? What could I have gotten for 680 bucks from the beginning?

Cadaver · 07-15-2008, 02:46 PM

hi

maybe YOU did somthing wrong from the begin?

Mass Appeal Designs · 07-16-2008, 07:00 AM

Hi Dean

I dont use flash so this is not a pitch for work but usually when I do work for a client I give them a flat fee with unlimited revisions, that way there is no confusion. Graphic designers can tend to be up themselves a bit sometimes. If you still need work doing try using these sites were you can hire a freelancer: Elance - Outsourcing to freelance programmers, web & logo designers, copywriters, illustrators and consultants | Elance or Guru.com ? Find freelancers at the world?s largest online service marketplace.. You will get people bidding to do your oroject and you can see peoples feedback before awarding the project.

Take it easy

Darren

Dean-123 · 07-16-2008, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mass Appeal Designs

Hi Dean

I dont use flash so this is not a pitch for work but usually when I do work for a client I give them a flat fee with unlimited revisions, that way there is no confusion. Graphic designers can tend to be up themselves a bit sometimes. If you still need work doing try using these sites were you can hire a freelancer: Elance - Outsourcing to freelance programmers, web & logo designers, copywriters, illustrators and consultants | Elance or Guru.com ? Find freelancers at the world?s largest online service marketplace.. You will get people bidding to do your oroject and you can see peoples feedback before awarding the project.

Take it easy

Darren

thankyou darren,your advice is very useful!i'll take it into consideration!

Dean-123 · 07-17-2008, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadaver

hi

maybe YOU did somthing wrong from the begin?

hi cadaver,thankyou for your post,can you explian your point in details?
i want to what's the mistake is !
thank you!

Scarlet-Hills · 07-17-2008, 06:23 PM

FYI

If you're worried about errors in your work then I'd avoid hiring freelancers from bidding websites. They're likely to be somewhat unprofessional/illiterate(!)

loveunltd · 07-22-2008, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean-123

Hey guys!
I want to get some points of view from graphic designers about an experience I recently had with one. First, we accorded a budget of 400 dollars for a job that included some Flash, some design and of course, nice presentation. The deadline was around 2 weeks; I didn’t ask him for anything because I trusted him. So, when he delivers I was unhappy with some of the designs and he comes all grumpy at me, telling me what my mistakes were and that if I wanted him to fix those mistakes he would charge me with another 200, so I accepted. Then I realized that some text was wrong and I sent him the correct one and he charged me another 80 bucks just for making him so the same thing twice. Is this normal? What would you have charged me? What could I have gotten for 680 bucks from the beginning?

I'd find another designer in future. If he spotted mistakes he could've fixed them as he went instead of pointing them out and charging for fixing them. Sounds like a chancer.

And, as above, avoid the bidding sites.

urbanbindi · 07-22-2008, 01:08 PM

Sounds like this designer did not work towards a project plan or any kind of plan for that matter.

A good designer will usually outline a set of deliverables to you. (Items of work you can expect from the designer.) Such as a proposal, a project plan, schedule of milestones & proposed deadlines, initial concepts, etc.

I always provide these at the start of the project and always update the client accordingly.

Next time seek someone who is more professional in their attitude.

07-15-2008, 09:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
Dean-123 Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 11	The problem with a graphic designer. Hey guys! I want to get some points of view from graphic designers about an experience I recently had with one. First, we accorded a budget of 400 dollars for a job that included some Flash, some design and of course, nice presentation. The deadline was around 2 weeks; I didn’t ask him for anything because I trusted him. So, when he delivers I was unhappy with some of the designs and he comes all grumpy at me, telling me what my mistakes were and that if I wanted him to fix those mistakes he would charge me with another 200, so I accepted. Then I realized that some text was wrong and I sent him the correct one and he charged me another 80 bucks just for making him so the same thing twice. Is this normal? What would you have charged me? What could I have gotten for 680 bucks from the beginning?

07-17-2008, 06:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Scarlet-Hills Regular Poster Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hertfordshire/Lincolnshire Posts: 23	FYI If you're worried about errors in your work then I'd avoid hiring freelancers from bidding websites. They're likely to be somewhat unprofessional/illiterate(!) __________________ *"Don't mistake legibility for communication"* - David Carson

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07-15-2008, 02:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cadaver New Poster Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2	hi maybe YOU did somthing wrong from the begin?

07-16-2008, 07:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mass Appeal Designs Regular Poster Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Liverpool Posts: 11	Hi Dean I dont use flash so this is not a pitch for work but usually when I do work for a client I give them a flat fee with unlimited revisions, that way there is no confusion. Graphic designers can tend to be up themselves a bit sometimes. If you still need work doing try using these sites were you can hire a freelancer: Elance - Outsourcing to freelance programmers, web & logo designers, copywriters, illustrators and consultants \| Elance or Guru.com ? Find freelancers at the world?s largest online service marketplace.. You will get people bidding to do your oroject and you can see peoples feedback before awarding the project. Take it easy Darren

07-22-2008, 01:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
urbanbindi New Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London Posts: 8	Sounds like this designer did not work towards a project plan or any kind of plan for that matter. A good designer will usually outline a set of deliverables to you. (Items of work you can expect from the designer.) Such as a proposal, a project plan, schedule of milestones & proposed deadlines, initial concepts, etc. I always provide these at the start of the project and always update the client accordingly. Next time seek someone who is more professional in their attitude.